Quick Navigation Subscribe and listen to the podcast on your favourite appShow NotesTimestampsLinksOther ResourcesCheck out some other recent episodesComments about this episode Subscribe and listen to the podcast on your favourite appShow NotesIn this episode I invite Raelan Agle to discuss what we have learned from speaking with people who have recovered from ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, MCS and POTS.We discuss the pitfalls, the spiritual aspect of recovery as well as the common physical approaches and other commonalities in people's recovery stories.Timestamps Introduction0:00:00Podcast Disclaimer0:01:54Dan's explains why he has focussed on recoveries0:02:37Dan & Raelan talk about not knowing recovery was possible0:08:21Discussion on recovery not being as rare as suggested0:09:41Raelan & Dan talk about isolation in sickness and recovery0:10:54Discussion on the learnings from the illness0:12:43We discuss the spiritual aspect of recovery0:14:13We discuss the onset of illness commonalities0:15:06Are people that recover special or lucky? What causes the shift into recovery?0:22:18We discuss what motivates us and how it can be a double edge sword.0:28:06Discussion about depression with chronic illness0:30:05Discussion of why mental outlook matters for a physical illness0:31:34Discussion on what stops people recovering & importance of persistence0:36:08Discussion on pitfall number two - following the rabbit0:43:07The approach that is always common in recoveries0:47:28Raelan shares more commonalities in recoveries & Dan explains how people can adopt them0:50:55Dan & Raelan discuss the 'miracle cure' people - super fast recoveries0:54:28We discuss how treatments work at different points in people's journey0:57:46Raelan brings up the 'stress' connection in people's recoveries1:00:48Dan shares who can and can't recover1:02:15Dan talks about how people overcome impossible odds1:04:15Discussion on responsibility vs self-blame & need for self-love1:08:28We explore the importance of listening to your instinct (& his or hers)1:09:52A discussion about not trying too hard1:13:20A big concern - expectations when we get diagnosed1:14:45Another big concern - severe mental health disturbance1:20:47Closing messages from Dan & Raelan1:27:20LinksYou can connect with Raelan here:Website - https://raelanagle.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/raelan.agle/YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/c/RaelanAgle/videosYou can also check out Raelan's skillshare course via her affiliate link here: Lifestyle Pacing - Tools for Optimizing Energy and Achieving Your GoalsOther ResourcesCFS Unravelled is the book that started it all, outlining the explanation for the pathogenesis of ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, POTS, MCS and related syndromes and explaining how recovery is possible.Learn more HERE.All my email subscribers receive additional FREE resources like my book Discover Hope. 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