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In this episode I invite Raelan Agle to discuss what we have learned from speaking with people who have recovered from ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, MCS and POTS.

We discuss the pitfalls, the spiritual aspect of recovery as well as the common physical approaches and other commonalities in people's recovery stories.


Podcast Disclaimer0:01:54
Dan's explains why he has focussed on recoveries0:02:37
Dan & Raelan talk about not knowing recovery was possible0:08:21
Discussion on recovery not being as rare as suggested0:09:41
Raelan & Dan talk about isolation in sickness and recovery0:10:54
Discussion on the learnings from the illness0:12:43
We discuss the spiritual aspect of recovery0:14:13
We discuss the onset of illness commonalities0:15:06
Are people that recover special or lucky?  What causes the shift into recovery?0:22:18
We discuss what motivates us and how it can be a double edge sword.0:28:06
Discussion about depression with chronic illness0:30:05
Discussion of why mental outlook matters for a physical illness0:31:34
Discussion on what stops people recovering & importance of persistence0:36:08
Discussion on pitfall number two - following the rabbit0:43:07
The approach that is always common in recoveries0:47:28
Raelan shares more commonalities in recoveries & Dan explains how people can adopt them0:50:55
Dan & Raelan discuss the 'miracle cure' people - super fast recoveries0:54:28
We discuss how treatments work at different points in people's journey0:57:46
Raelan brings up the 'stress' connection in people's recoveries1:00:48
Dan shares who can and can't recover1:02:15
Dan talks about how people overcome impossible odds1:04:15
Discussion on responsibility vs self-blame & need for self-love1:08:28
We explore the importance of listening to your instinct (& his or hers)1:09:52
A discussion about not trying too hard1:13:20
A big concern - expectations when we get diagnosed1:14:45
Another big concern - severe mental health disturbance1:20:47
Closing messages from Dan & Raelan1:27:20


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You can also check out Raelan's skillshare course via her affiliate link here: Lifestyle Pacing - Tools for Optimizing Energy and Achieving Your Goals

Other Resources

Paperback & eBook

CFS Unravelled is the book that started it all, outlining the explanation for the pathogenesis of ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, POTS, MCS and related syndromes and explaining how recovery is possible.

Learn more HERE.

All my email subscribers receive additional FREE resources like my book Discover Hope.  So consider subscribing and reading the book to rediscover hope.

Discover Hope Bookcover

To learn how other people recover, listen to the recovery interviews!

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If you would like to learn more about the ANS REWIRE program, check out the 4 free intro lessons or visit the ANS REWIRE website.

Check out some other recent episodes

Episode 4: Dr Jacob Teitelbaum, world leading MECFS Fibromyalgia POTS physician, shares his research and experience
Episode 13: Snippet – Should you change program, coach or practitioner to help you recover from CFS/Fibromyalgia/POTS/MCS?
Episode 16: Fibromyalgia Remission Story with Rachel
Episode 7: Top Scientist shares Chronic Pain Insights & discovery of New Effective Fibromyalgia Treatment

You can see the full list of episodes HERE.

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Just want to sincerely thank you for this podcast – and your American Lady…. Whom I ask you to forward this to please? You both 100% NAILED my experience so far on my adventure (as I like to call it). Dan….. I am just a few hours drive up the coast, as poor as a church mouse currently after running a beautiful career and I hit that “moment” you described, that turning point a few months ago where I realised “the only person who can heal myself is…..myself” . Powerfully simple but what a journey to get there! I have… Read more »

catherine Kemp

Two of my favourite people- Dan Neuffer and Raelan Agle! These long discussions (listened to in short bursts of course) are very useful even when you may have heard similar before- perhaps something resonates because you are at a different stage of understanding. One thing: on the discussion about taking your own life, did I hear correctly Dan that you said that you couldn’t have done that as you had responsibilities ie a young family? People often take their own life because they feel their families would be better off without them, as well as not wanting to continue with… Read more »

catherine Kemp


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