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Dr Jacob Teitelbaum is one of the world's leading ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia and POTS physicians and shares his experience and insights in this episode of the Wisdom from the Other Side Podcast.
Dan & Dr Teitelbaum discuss their common ground on the pathogenesis of the illness, treatment approaches and delve into specifics around stubborn difficulties with sleep, hormonal cycles and much more.
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Dr Jacob Teitelbaum has released the fourth edition of his book "From Fatigue to Fantastic" - it's the blue edition, check it out in all good bookstores including https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593421507
Dr Jacob Teitelbaum's website: https://www.vitality101.com/
1.Teitelbaum J, Morello G, Goudie S. Nutritional Intervention in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia (CFS/FMS) A Unique Porcine Serum Polypeptide Nutritional Supplement. The Open Pain Journal. 2020;13(1). Accessed July 2, 2021. https://openpainjournal.com/VOLUME/13/PAGE/52/FULLTEXT/
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CFS Unravelled is the book that started it all, outlining the explanation for the pathogenesis of ME/CFS, Fibromyalgia, POTS, MCS and related syndromes and explaining how recovery is possible.
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Hello beautiful community!
Thank you so much Dan and Dr T for making this awesome interview.
I have a question about the super sensitive people that cannot take supplements.
I for example was able to take ANY supplements until I stop tolerating them by the end of 2019. Multivitamins, vitamin d, b complex you name it. They all make me weak exhausted and I end up crashing the same day. I get a weird reaction like my breathing start becoming shallow then extreme fatigue kicks and all my muscles just run out of energy to function. It seems like anything that gives energy gives me crash. Am I missing something that needs to be in place for me to tolerate all these supplements. Even vitamin d which I have low does that to me. Would low cortisol make me not handle this or my low homocysteine (3.5) ???
I don’t know how to move forward with supplementation in this situation.
Thank you for your help.
Very common in CFS/FMS and have devoted a long chapter on this called Sensitive to Everything?” in my new blue cover edition of the book From Fatigued to Fantastic. Adrenal fatigue needs to be addressed along with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and Mold toxins. I often begin people who have this severely on brain-training programs like ANS REWIRE.
So far so good on the ANS program, however I have 2 rather strange symptoms that have persisted throughout my CFS journey that I still dont know if is part of this illness or not. Vivid dreams for almost the entire evening, and a nocturnal priapism that occurs along with the dreams. MRI’s, Doppler scans, blood tests have shown no obvious cause of the priapism. Its only occurring during sleep so must be linked to the vivid dreams I assume. Its making restful sleep a real challenge and hindering my recovery progress, so I’d love to find a solution to it, or at least just know what’s happening.
I’ve searched on many an ME/CFS forum and vivid dreams, and/ or priapism isn’t something that other people are reporting as one of their ME/CFS symptoms.
It seems to me that I have developed some sort of REM sleep disorder whereby I’m not cycling through the various sleep cycles throughout the night. Any thoughts on this and how I could possible improve this area?
I would begin by making sure the vivid dreams are not caused by low blood sugar/low adrenal
Hi Patrick – so check out the lessons on blood-sugar regulation and experiment with that bed-time snack we talk about.
Dr. Teitelbaum: You said something about the moments when the CFS gets better, that it can give you insight into what is causing it. My CFS always disappears for 1-2 days after I have the flu/cold or something similar. First I feel terrible like you would expect from someone having the flu, then when the flu is over, there is a short period of time where I am completely CFS-symptom free. Does this give any clues to the cause of the CFS?
Not uncommon. Suggests immune dysfunction is key, and would lead me to explore underlying infections (esp viral and antibiotic sensitive)
Thank you so very much for sharing this interview with Dr Teitelbaum. I have seen him before but just live this inspirational interview. The very end about making sure to not fall into the same things that got us sick in the first place made a huge impact on me. I had been doing quite well and passed through the last two years with a great deal of stress and have felt that I’ve relapsed in the past few months. It helps tremendously to hear this interview and the hope it brings. Thank you so very much!!!!!
So glad it was helpful Stephanie! This is a VERY treatable illness;-)
Hello,
Dr Teitelbaum, what is your opinion for people with CFS + fibromyalgia+ PTSD. Should they get the Covid’s vaccine?
There is no “one size fits all” answer here. People have strong feelings both ways which impact the decision as well. I begin with “which choice feels best to you?” Then tailor the options from there
Is it a particular Covid vaccination that some people have seen some positive results from? Symptoms getting better? Which vaccination. If I decide to get one?
Not really. Seen with all 3 . Except in women of childbearing age (where I do not recommend the Johnson & Johnson), i otherwise prefer the J&J (and this is what I received myself)
Dr. T, What do you know about the fm/a test and proposed treatment? Do you think this will help?
The TB Vaccine HArvard study is promising, but we won’t know for 3 years. Need the test to get into the study. Otherwise, I see little benefit to the test vs doing the free quiz at https://www.vitality101.com/cfs-fms-checklist
Hello Dr.. I’ve been battling CFS for over two years and have been following your recommended supplement regime. Unfortunately I have not experienced any improvements . According to you it could take up to (3) months. My symptoms include overwhelming fatigue. brain fog, and some pain I’m not functioning normally. I’m taking the following supplements daily:
Energy Revitalization
D Ribose 2x daily
Smart Energy
CoQ10
Curamin (have ordered Curamed)
HRG80
Ive taken naltrexone and abilify in the past and it presented no improvements.
Thanks,
Maryann
Best to do a thorough assessment to tailor options to your case. I do treat people worldwide (can email Sarah at appointments@endfatigue.com for info. The free quiz at http://www.EnergyAnalysisProgram.com can give you a good idea on where your key issues are
Dr. T,
Do you have any concern about iron overload with men who would like to take Recovery Factors? Eight tabs would equal about 9 mg of iron daily. I am an RN who ran a natural health practice for 16 years and assessed iron and ferritin levels in everyone. Many male and a few female clients had iron overload. I’m hesitant to recommend additional iron for most men.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
This is about the same amount of iron as in a hamburger, so not overly concerned unless their iron tests are elevated. And I agree. I check ferritin for both high and low iron screening in my CFS population
Dr. T, what are your thoughts on a lectin free diet for Fibromyalgia and CFS? I appreciate your work!
Don’t know. Not familiar with that. And you’re welcome!;-)
Thank you Dr. Teitelbaum and Dan for an uplifting and informative podcast!
My pleasure!;-)
You’re welcome Sharon. 😉
I suffered with CFS/Fibro since 2012. I had crash after crash and pain. I was forced into early retirement because I exhausted my sick leave after 4 years from diagnosis. Which indicates how much I had accumulated throughout my teaching career. I loved my job. In 2017 I attended an 18 day medical program that embraces whole food, plant based diet and I got my life back. I haven’t had a big crash since. Crashes would last anywhere from weeks to months before. Now, if I over exert myself, I get fatigue for a day, maybe 2. And, even then, it’s nothing like my previous crashes; I could barely get to the bathroom and back to bed. I’m truly thankful and blessed to have found this “NewStart” program. I had researched and tried so many things online and through doctors. I mainly tried to go the natural and holistic path. I know everyone is different and what works for some, might not for others, but I pray that anyone suffering from this illness, finds their recovery. Thank you to all that are working to find the cure or recovery solution to CFS/Fibro.
Interesting information Dan. Are you aware of a cheaper alternative to Recovery Factors or know of something similar that costs less? I was thinking about trying out a collagen peptide supplement.
The mention of peptides piqued my interest as the medicine that has helped me the most over the past 28 years is kambo frog medicine; which is full of peptides. Unfortunately the process is hard to do.
Do you do 1 on 1 consultations? I simply don’t have the focus to follow a series of videos or even read an entire book.
I would be interested in an answer to this as well.
Recovery Factors sounds promising, so naturally, I would love to try it,
However, I’m not financially able to do this supplement – due to the expense.
The shipping cost put it over the top for me – I live in Hawaii.
So an alternative supplement to RF would be mighty nice.
BTW … Excellent interview. Appreciate you both.