Published on August 11, 2013 by Dan Neuffer
Last updated on April 29, 2020 by Dan Neuffer

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Are You Frustrated?

Frustrated with Fibromyalgia?

 Frustrated with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Frustrated with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis?

Being frustrated with Fibromyalgia or being frustrated with ME/CFS is a big part of experiencing the illness.  Many of us share similar frustrations about Fibro/ME/CFS, including not being understood, feeling stuck and not getting better as well as the impact on our lifestyle and relationships.

But having spoken to numerous people now that have recovered from Fibromyalgia and ME/CFS, I have noticed the powerful opportunity of frustration as I discuss in this video.

Please leave a comment below and share with others to see what they feel!

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  1. Not sure if I should say this or not, but I get really frustrated when people say, just pick up the phone and call a friend – seriously, what friend??? I’m an introvert who has always made friends through work or sport, neither of which I can do any more. I am trying to do a few things that put me in contact with people (eg workshops at my local library), but then I have to deal with how to tell people I have had CFS/FM for over 10 years and despite looking fine, I therefore have limitations on what I can do. Although I’ve just hit age 50, until recently I was attending the local uni doing biomedical science – yes, for fun, I enjoy learning and I’m smart – I can’t cope with the travelling and deadlines now, but I’m doing free online MOOCs instead now to feed my need to learn. Then to top it all off, my primary support which came from my partner and her kids has gone since we broke up earlier this year – and yes, I said partner/her which also means I’m gay, yet another minority group – and now I get to do try and do all the house/garden, etc, chores by myself. I feel like I’ve won the minority jackpot – 50+, chronically ill, intelligent, gay and (unhappily) single. To me, making/being friends is about what I can “offer” someone of value that makes me worth their time and just at the moment I feel I have very little to offer.

    1. Hi Sandra, sure, it’s great of you to share your thoughts. I do understand what you mean and you are not alone. That’s why I tried to nudge people into many directions – anything that moves you forward out of Fibromyalgia or ME/CFS. Relationships take a big toll when we have chronic illness, especially with this one. I hope you are getting the insights and inspiration to move forward towards better health.
      Best wishes,
      Dan

    2. Hello Sandra. I can understand how you feel. If it’s any use to you, I am good friend material and I belong the the ME Group in South Wales. You may email me if you like.

    3. Hi Sandra, I wonder how you are doing now 3 years later. Would love to chat more. Am largely in the same boat, apart from being gay; am nothing now 🙂 hope you are still around x

  2. Thanks Dan for the great v-log! You’re SO right about how each of us has to arrive at the precipice of our own tipping point in our own time. That one “final straw” is often the one to shift the focus toward healing. It doesn’t mean that the next step we take fixes everything. It just means that we’re willing to stop doing what we’ve been doing and try something (and oftentimes many “somethings”) different. Thanks again for the insight. Trusting our own intuition has a lot more power than we think!

  3. Thank you for all your hard work and for sharing with us Dan. It is so helpful to get encouragement from someone occasionally.

    My biggest frustration is trying to do everything right. (Good food, gentle stretching and balanced activities, meditation, positive attitude… ect.) But see no results, or only short term temporary results. But I keep going, because I know it will take time for my body to heal itself.

    Then I hear my hubby say “he is disappointed that only a few hours of ‘slowly’ walking around, could put me in bed for 2 days.” And my doctor (who I thought had some understanding) tells me I need to start doing at least 20min of cardio a day. I want to tell her..”OK, I’ll walk up and down the stairs twice. That should about do it.”

    People see a few short minutes out of my life and think everything is great. What they don’t see is that it took a full day of planning and resting to be able to go out into the world and that I will need to spend another full day recuperating from the energy I overextended on my outing.

    I also get frustrated that in my mind, I still believe I can do all the things I used to be able to do. So when I plan my day, I over-reach my capabilities by 300%. Then when I start moving, I can barley even get one thing done by myself.

    I guess that I have a lot of pent up frustrations. Must be why I prefer my own company now a days, – no one around to explain myself to,

    1. Hi Laura

      I read your comments and am torn between laughter and tears – it’s not really funny, but from the point of view of somebody who understands exactly what you are going through, the cardio suggestion is almost comical. Having said that, of course I explain how exercise impacts our health in CFS Unravelled, but “pushing” is not the answer!

      I share your hubby’s dissapointment – and you know, I think you should also. It’s dissappointing, the whole illness is dissappointing, but the dissapointment is NOT IN YOU!!

      FRUSTRATING! Hearing other people’s frustration reminds me of my own when I was sick and makes we want to scream sometimes. But I hope you use your frustration.

      Remember to focus on the CORE cause as I describe in the book and video. Stay positive and focussed on your goal. Neuroplasticity is only effected through persistant repetition. I hope to share more resources with you soon.

      Remember not to worry what others think – you are awesome for staying on track and when people don’t show you the understanding you are looking for, remember they are not being nasty, they just don’t have a frame of reference. It’s like trying to explain to a blind person what the sunset looks like!

      Thanks for sharing

      Dan

      XX

    2. Hi Laura,

      I know how you feel as my friend has M.E. I had her in my own home for a year and also worked with her in hers before and after that time. She has run out of options: doctors, specialists (if you can find them and pay for them), diet, gentle exercise, relaxation etc. etc. and I have gone through the whole thing with her and came out the other end, depressed and ill for many months. I now work with an M.E. Group and the frustration is still there. I do what I can to assist people but it is too little and it doesn’t make much of a difference. I visit them, I fill in forms for benefits with them and take them to medical appointment, pray for the ones who request this…and so it goes on and on. The medical people still have a ‘psychiatric view’ of the problem but in the last two weeks met a Specialist who is on the ball and a doctor who seems to know more than the majority. I’d like to keep in touch with you, Miriam

      1. Hi Miriam,
        It would be great to hear from you off & on.
        I can be reached by using userp ‘SpaceGirl63’ at on-line support group http://www.dailystrength,com. – CFS group. &/or Fibromyalgia group. DS is a wonderful support group with many knowledgable loving supportive people.

        Thank You for taking your time to help others. You are a God send.
        {{{HUGZ}}}. Laura

      2. Just want to say you are a GEM ? of a person. To do this for others is so kind. Cfs is frustrating for all involved. Take care of your health too.

  4. Hi, Sandra!
    You’re very brave to bare your soul and any of us, including myself, would be happy to have new friends… Email me or PM me anytime to chat… We all have flaws but we all also have a lot to offer that we don’t even realize… Compassion, empathy, understanding, patience, friendship, the list goes on and on and oddly enough those are the exact traits we need in our friends so value what you have to offer… It may not be physical but it’s way more valuable than that to us fellow sufferers…. There should be no judgments here… Especially not from my end… Good luck!

    1. Thanks for being supportive Jackie and making CFS Unravelled a warm friendly place for people with fibromyalgia and ME/CFS!

      You are a gem!

      🙂

  5. I understand that at a certain point you can push yourself to do things out of frustration or determination to have something go right in your life. What happens when you have pushed yourself from not being able to work to working 6 days a week (56 hours) and are going back to school in a few weeks. I was almost bed ridden for a year, and to be where I am now did not seem like a possibility. I have a small circle of very close friends who are an amazing support system. My frustration stems from my family, most specifically my sister who seems to lack any kind of compassion. My huge accomplishment and life changing push I made is STILL not good enough for her. After a certain point of pushing yourself it doesn’t matter what determination or frustration you have because we all have a chronic illness that does limit what we can do. I can’t change that, yet she tells me that my best is not good enough for her. How do you use that frustration to help you especially when you already are pushing so hard that you feel as though you are teetering on the fence of bad flare up every day?

    1. Hi Jenn – what a wonderful comment – thank you! A deeper recovery in my experience NEVER comes from PUSHING ourselves – in fact quite the opposite. But it is so frustrating with Fibro/CFS when we want to do more but we can’t because if we do we crash! Sorry to hear about the lack of understanding by the family – your efforts are not just good enough, they may be TOO GOOD. I wonder if others could have achieved what you have given the suffering and illness you are experiencing, and perhaps in that lies your challenge. You might want to listen to Katie’s recovery interview to see what I mean. Using your frustration is sometimes not about doing more, sometimes it’s about doing less! It’s about changing your strategy and pushing through in actions that we have resisted against. Hope that helps and thanks again for your great comment. XX 🙂

  6. Dan,
    I see this battle through the eyes on someone who needs to manage chronic pain and chronic fatigue on non-ending basis. I’ve been doing it over 30 years now. I’m also, though, a professional who works with patients with the same issues I have. What you’re saying is the same thing I’ve been teaching for the last ten years at least.

    Chronic illness, of any kind, often comes with depression, frustration, anger, guilt, broken dreams, resentment, and every other sort of negative thought or emotion. As patients, we become sometimes a wee bit stuck in our own misery, while our loved ones get a wee bit stuck in feeling the same exact things that we do but from their own perspectives. And most folks with chronic illness that I know have some degree of panic in their thoughts and feelings, whether its a desperation to quit hurting for just a little while, or whether its panic about the negative outcome they are anticipating for themselves. All of that becomes a cyclical downward spiral for us and everyone around us.

    I can’t say I have all the answers. I certainly don’t. But–I do know this. I’m nowhere near retirement age. I have to work. I have to go forward with my life. There is no other option. What I can change is how I respond to my pain and my fatigue. I can stop keeping that negativity in front of my face and having ‘stinking thinking’ be the filter through which I see everything else. Sometimes even taking a moment for a cup of tea and allowing myself to really focus in on the flavor of the tea and enjoying the quiet can be work. If I can get beyond my own negativity to simply enjoy the simple things that make up the spice of life, and allow it to shift my thinking away from negativity, then, its amazing how much more control I have over my life and how much less helplessness I feel.

    I’m not suggesting a simple dose of “Be Happy” therapy. But there is some reality in stopping the incessant negative self talk that often is a natural part of chronic illness. The only things we ultimately have charge over are our thoughts and our behaviors. Our feelings are only the responses to that. In order to change how we feel, the only options for that are changing our thoughts or changing our behaviors.

    Our recovery is not based on chasing the pill that will be the “magic bullet” to cure all our ills. Or the right doctor that is the guru of all wisdom for our diagnosis. Those things are helpful, certainly, but the real answer is inside of ourselves.

    Will I need to live with my diagnoses for the rest of my life? Well, perhaps. Perhaps not. It really doesn’t matter, quite honestly. What matters is whether or not I’m doing the most I can do, within my own power, to truly enjoy my life, in whatever way that is for me today, or whether I’m consumed by nothing but negativity. The negativity never ever makes me feel any better. Never. Even just calming my mind and appreciating the little things around me makes a difference. When I start changing my focus to a neutral focus, then I can at least peacefully co-exist with my diagnosis. If I change my focus to a positive one, then I can change my life.

    And I have. And I have noticed that when others that stop pish-toshing this and honestly give it some serious work, they start to find they have charge of their lives again, instead of their diagnosis running their lives.

    My final thought is this. As hokey as this all sounds, it will cost you nothing, and it might even help. What are you out?

    1. Hi Khaat,

      It doesn’t sound hokey at all! It can just be a challenge for people to achieve this because the illness is so darn miserable. However, once you get a deeper understanding for the pathogenesis of the illness, you will see that this shift you describe is not just helpful, but critical. But of course, positive thinking alone likely won’t get you there. If you consider my video explanation you will hopefully see what I mean.

      Thanks for your wonderful contribution.

  7. Hi Dan
    Thanks for an encouraging video. You’re right about using that frustration, although it’s very difficult at first, because – and certainly for me – you feel so stupid and useless. It’s at that point that you feel that you’ll never see the wood for the trees again. It’s like you’re a thousand piece puzzle that’s fallen to pieces, and the pieces don’t seem to fit any more. It’s really a re-assembling of yourself by getting to know yourself all over again. And the frustrating thing is that you have to take baby steps in order to put the pieces back together. The most difficult part for me is looking at myself to see what I do and how it affects me – and that is only achieved by slowing your life right down. And that is frustrating too. It’s takes time to learn how to do this, but it does work. It’s helped me make one or two very small improvements. Despite this I still get my down days (I have CFS & Fibro) where I’m exhausted and hurt all over, I can’t think straight etc. But practice means that after a few days I’m able to look and see that a change needs to be made, or I’ve not done something right.

    1. Hi Charlotte — thanks for the great comment — it’s a rough journey at times, but little steps add up as the poem in CFS Unravelled explains so well. I hope you find the video explanation and book helpful to focus your efforts towards recovery and that they stories of how people recover from FMS/CFS are equally helpful!
      Best wishes,
      Dan

  8. Hi Dan,
    This concept is new to me but I understand what you mean. What I’m uncertain about is how people have been ‘cured’ of Fibromyalgia, which I have alongside chronic Arthritis and Diabetes. I have been bedbound for 14 months now and am only 44. I am currently going through ‘Aggressive Physiotherapy’ to straighten my knees/legs, and I’ve deliberately lost 14 stone to help my recovery. I am a determined person who will do what is needed. So, how do I cure my fibromyalgia?

    1. Hi Denise
      For many people, the Diabetes (if we are talking type 2) is a direct result of Fibromyaliga or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I don’t use the word ‘cure’ for many reasons, not least of which that there are virtually no cures for anything (will write a blog on this shortly). My website and book are about helping people recover and you will find that once you understand the explanation I offer and the more indepth explanation in CFS Unravelled, that you need to tailor your strategy for recovery as opposed to be looking for a simple treatment cure!
      I hope you find these resources helpful.
      Dan

  9. It’s absolutely maddening when I hear the “professionals” refer to this illness as psychological. If these pros could live just one week in our bodies, this ridiculous hypothesis would be relegated to just a quaint notion of the Dark Ages of medicine.

    I have lived with CFSME for over 10 yrs of active infection. I have tried numerous doctors, treatments, vitamins, medicines, etc., all to limited or no success. Recently I have turned to very healthy, or “clean” eating which basically calls for no processed foods & lots of fruits & veg. I also determined that for me, exercise at whatever level I can do is important. I am basically doing everything “right” for my health, and yet here I am, having a flare where my exhaustion knows no relief. Sleep is non-restorative & I feel fatigued at the cellular level.

    My point is I’m not wallowing in my illness. I’m not courting it and I’m doing everything I can to remain healthy. I’m taking my meds, I’m living in a place of “yes”, being positive, forgiving myself & others, getting lots of rest, staying stress-free, I know that my nutrition & movement are top-notch, yet I’m still here sick in bed. If I did not have a real, true disease, I would be the picture of health! Any healthy person who followed my routine would be glowing with health and climbing mountains, conquering their dreams!

    Frustrated? You bet. But I don’t revel in it. I accept that this is my lot. I will continue to seek healing from any viable source. I will continue to hope. But I will also not deny that my illness is 100% real and will, like a scorned lover, always return to exact its reckoning. And I agree wholeheartedly that each of us must listen to our individual bodies for the way we need to live.

    1. Thanks for your comment Jane – I really agree with what you say and felt the same way myself.

      Clearly both fibromyalgia and CFS are real and physical and not imagined. To be honest, I get frustrated that we are still having this conversation these days, the evidence of the physical problems is not just clear but overwhelming. There are more physically measurable dysfunctions than you can poke a stick at, it’s just a matter of doing the right tests!

      However, if you have read CFS Unravelled, you will note that I also speak about a psychological component that feeds into the illness. Of course, this is different for everyone and can be quite subtle at times. But that doesn’t in any way suggest that you would be wallowing in your illness or that you don’t have a real illness. The mere suggestion of anything like that is frankly pretty offensive to all of us, even those like me that have recovered!

      Thanks so much for your comments. Brings back a lot of frustration for me even after all these years! Hope you have retained hope for recovery and are enjoying the recovery interviews!

      Dan

      1. I had a rather hard time cnohsiog just one type of physician I would want to work for. So many of them fascinate me, and with me not really going into any medical field other than support, I never gave this any thought in the past. After reading the list, I am more favorable of working for a neonatologist. It is difficult to think about how neonatologist physicians sometimes have the most difficult job in the world, but I can only imagine how amazing it would be to be a part of saving a baby’s life. I had a coworker once whose baby was born at 36 weeks, and her baby had a lot of heart and lung problems. There were concerns about whether or not they would ever fully develop once she had him, but after many months in the NICU, and many scares that happened during it, the doctors were able to save him and he is now a very healthy 5 year old. It is because of that I have a higher interest in the neonatologist field.I hate to say which type of physician I would care less to work for, and it is because I worry that many will take it the wrong way. When I was 16, I used to help my mom at an assisted living home as a caregiver. We would get to work at 7:00 A.M. every morning to prepare breakfast for four of the elderly men and women that we were caring for. We would then make sure that all bedding was changed, rooms were cleaned, meals were prepared, and appointments were handled. We worked 12 hour days, and they were always grueling. The owner of the home made sure that everyone had their medicine and made it to their doctor appointments on time. However, she was more worried about getting paid for her services than actually helping the elderly. She would yell at them if they did something wrong, and even call them terrible names. My mom reported her and we both quit our job, but it has always left a sting in my heart since then. It is because of my experience with that situation that I do not think I could ever work for a gerontologist. I know that the situations would be much different, but ever since my experience with caring for elderly individuals it is very hard for me to think about assisting a physician in geriatrics because I worry that someone else might treat the elderly in the same way the owner of the home did. I am a firm believer that the elderly deserve the ultimate care and comfort when going through any treatment and aging in general, but I do not think I could ever work in that environment again.

  10. Just want to say thankyou to Miriam and Jackie for responding to my rant the other day. Sorry for taking so long to respond – I was a tad embarassed and didn’t come back here till today. If you’re still interested in exchanging emails my email address is XXXXXXXXXX.

  11. Great Vlog with some very interesting points raised. I always struggle with the ideas of hope and acceptance, I’m a very positive person so when I mention hope I mean hope of recovery, not hope in general. Is acceptance of your illnesss giving up hope of recovery? The more I accept the illness and adjust my life to same, the more ‘ok’ I become with being ill and try to find a balance, the doubt seeps in that I am not trying hard enough to get better. Is trying to find a baseline of energy to start building on the best way forward? Any time I feel I can start building on it ,seems to be the wrong time and I set off a flare of fall into a relaspe (where I am currently). Absolutely the thought of recovery is what keeps us going but at the same time you can push yourself too much trying all these different things and methods to recover. Also there is so much advice and so many people almost touting ‘cures’ that you can spend so much time crossing these off as you try them that you lose sight of your path. those ‘failures’ lead to frustration but this journey is not going to happen overnight. What you say about instinct and trusting your instinct is so so true I decided when I turned 40, 3 months ago that I was going to start listening to myself more. Since then I have freed myself from the guilt I felt at not being who I was before. I accepted myself the new version (40.0 I call it) It has allowed me to distance myself from toxic relationships that before I was so emotionally entwined in I felt trapped. I feel I no longer have to explain myself to people that if they don’t understand it’s not my job to make them do so, I just accept them for where they are and let anything ‘hurtful’ wash off me. I now concentrate on myself and have never looked after myself better, I rest when I need to, exercise based on what I feel able to whether it’s walking outside or yoga/stretching on my bed, my diet is impeccable, including treats, I have learned to say NO and by doing so people around me have begun to understand more. When I used to say yes and turn up for everything, trying to be all things to all people, they saw me looking ‘well’ because I washed and put some make up on to make myself feel better and then they doubted; but now they are starting to understand much better. Only you can know what is best for you, by all means take and read advice but only choose what suits you and keep smiling, it takes rain and sun to make a rainbow. Thanks Dan

    1. Hi Siobhan

      40.0 – I love it. You sound like you are really on the right track – I think your attitude and emotional intelligence is fantastic.

      The information overload is a dilemma, and yes, lots of “cures for CFS/ME/Fibro” out there.

      In terms of hte best way forward, I think you are definitely on the right track, but you need to make sure that you also work on the cause as I explain it directly (check out the video explanation if you haven’t seen it). In CFS Unravelled I give a framework on how to “treat the cause and not just the consequences”. By taking advantage of the wonderful effects of neuroplasticity, you can ‘rewire’ the nervous system over time to return to correct functioning in my view and in my experience. But it takes consistent and persistant effort.

      Whilst CFS Unravelled gives you a framework, there are lots of details and subtelties that I hope to share soon. Working hard to create a video training program to help everyone!

      Thanks for your feedback and all the best with your continued efforts.

      Dan

    2. I too struggle with acceptance, after five years of doing everything to get better – starting with giving up work within a month of hitting the wall and the latest having been sugar, gluten, grain and dairy free for a year, with a Miriad of other approaches in between, you name it I’ve done it or am still doing it – I am beginning to wonder about applying my mindfulness not just to my symptoms but to the very idea of recovery. I have fervently believed that you can’t recover if you don’t believe you will, but every time I relapse – I spend 50% of the day in bed and rarely leave the house because of the impact on me – I feel such disappointment, for me, for my daughter whose childhood is slipping through my fingers, that I wonder if it would be better to come to terms with the idea that I am unlikely to recover before she grows up. I also feel that this idea that you have to reach a turning point and then you start to recover is just another thing that can make people who keep relapsing feel like they just haven’t reached that point yet. Which is clearly rubbish.

      yes I am frustrated by friends who have CFS – I wouldn’t say they have m.e – who do not take responsibility for their recovery, who keep pushing, won’t try new things, won’t give up foods, especially when I feel they have never been ill like me and so could probably gain a full recovery by doing half the things I have etc etc but there are plenty of people like me who have listened to their body from the start, who have sacrificed things again and again in the drive to recover before my daughters childhood has vanished, and yet can not move beyond the glass cage they live in. And to imply that when you reach the bottom you will turn that corner is actually quite cruel. IT is something you can only do from the comfortable position of relief at having made a recovery.

      if you had done all that you had done, but we’re still living in the glass cage you would have a vastly different point of view on what it takes to recover.

      I’ve listened to so many stories of recovery here, and I do find them comforting, but ultimately I am beginning to think those people have a good chunk of luck, because they could make some fundamental changes and gradually improve. For some of us that is proving far harder to achieve.

      1. Hi Sula

        Well, I totally appreciate where you are coming from.

        And you know what, a lot of people did have some luck, especially those that didn’t even understand the dynamics of the illness and more or less stumbled into recovery using helpful strategies that they didn’t even understand WHY they would be helpful.

        You know, I don’t think we need to hit an absolute low to recover. Yes we see that often, because it gives people a much more serious level of motivation to make changes, but really, we want to aim to be in a better place emotionally to launch our recovery, not a low point. (only some people lack motivation and a serious effort, many of us don’t!)

        And Sula, I totally understand what you mean about that that glass cage (I used to refer to it as a glass ceiling). You try everything and don’t make progress. I DON’T think it’s fair or correct to suggest that it’s because you are not trying hard enough or don’t want it or anything like that. Unfortunately, sometimes it’s not obvious to us what we are missing! That’s why I focus so heavily on education in the ANS REWIRE program, to help you work out where you may be stumbling with your efforts. And sometimes 1 on 1 coaching can give us that external perspective and insight to help us identify where we get stuck.

        Sula, despite years (even decades) of trying, I have seen people suddenly make their breakthrough and gain momentum when they work out what’s happening or have a breakthrough treatment. But sometimes, it just isn’t that easy, especially for people that have been sick for longer. Unfortunately, recovery is a process, not due to a ‘cure’ – so we need to keep going, keep adding new strategies (whilst continuing with existing ones), until we reach that turning point and things improve. In the mean time, we need to be OK emotionally, because it’s a bit of a rollercoaster to say the least.

        Having totally given up on any hope of recovery myself for years before my turning point, I totally appreciate how you feel. You know, I think it’s totally OK to accept your situation to help you cope with things and take the stress off. But accepting your ME/CFS and recognising the current limitiations and ‘giving in’ to the illness, does not have to equate with giving in. I hope you find a way to cope more easily with the frustrations, but to retain your goal for recovery – and I wish you your breakthrough soon!

  12. Fantastic, Dan! Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I don’t find I have as much frustration now as I had before. I understand this fatigue better now (your book was very helpful), and so I’m learning to go with the flow. I think the exercise program I’ve had since late February has helped to increase my stamina somewhat, as I have had more good days than bad for the past couple of months. I’m enjoying it, and when I do have bad days, I know they will pass eventually. But I still find other people’s attitudes frustrating. Especially when they tell me “yes, we all have bad days.” They can’t relate unless they’ve been through it themselves!

    1. That’s great to hear about your progress! “I know they will pass eventually” is what you said above! That is very powerful and I remind people of this all the time. Remember not to push your body, just expand your activity with confidence and ignore any negative feedback your body gives you, this is critical!

      Thanks for the postiive feedback about CFS Unravelled.

      Yes, those comments are frustrating, sometimes it would be nice to just be able to let others experience what you have for a couple of weeks. You have to choose people you confide in wisely. Look forward to hearing about your continued progress!

  13. This hit home for me, describes how my life was before I healed with a gluten free diet 2 1/2 years ago, after suffering with fibro and CFS for over 10 years. It is most frustrating, embarassing and worrisome when you’re in so much pain that your life comes to a complete stop, and you can’t keep up with your child, have to stop gardening when you enjoy it immensely, and avoid social functions with friends and family because its too uncomfortable to stand or sit too long, and you find yourself too embarrassed to deal with the looks and unhelpful advise and opinions. Many don’t believe fibro is real and think a person is faking it when one day they need a cane and anothe day they don’t. I remember well the looks when I first got my disabled parking permit, my cane, then a walker andwhen going out for the day with a wheelchair, because it was so painful to walk or stand and there aren’t always benches when you need them.

    I thank heaven everyday that my husband pushed me to try the GF diet, everytime I walk up and down the stairs pain free, walk to the park without needing a cane, get up from a month or long drive and my joints and muscles are relaxed and not fighting me. I hope more and more people find healing ways, we all deserve our life back.

    1. Thanks for your comments Pauline.

      Yes, it’s hard to get the acknowledgement and understanding at times. Makes life even tougher when you are struggling with poor health.

      I hope my explanation and framework for recovery resonate with you and help you move forward.

  14. Hi Dan,

    Good Video! some refreshing points about dealing with frustration resulting from cfs, fibro, ect. As somebody else mentioned, the pick up the phone and call someone tends to become fruitless after years of fibro, you don’t have friends left! Most have been driven away by our complaints or our own hiding out, not wanting to either go out or communicate while severely under the weather. Once we have begun the process of recovery we find ourselves looking for new friends or at least someone to talk with because the old ones have moved on.
    Here again the frustration arises as we don’t want to hang out at forums and listen to others complain about everything they have going wrong, Yes it is good to go there and tell our stories but constantly reading the woes of others will bring us into despair, so what to do?

    I was fortunate in having a heart problem needing surgery, followed up with a cervical fusion so now my family and leftover friends can justify my health issues, “for yes I still have some” these are as visible as the 10″ scar on my chest. Now I can focus my attention on what makes me feel better without having to worry about how it may look to others and that is a lesson to be learned by all Fibro, CFS, CPS sufferers. Surround yourself with as many happy people as possible, watch and read things that make you laugh and be sure to take your pain meds on time 🙂 Funny now that I have a “REAL” disease (Degenerative Spinal something or other ) people bring me brownies that smell funny, odd looking ciggies and other things all to ease my pain. Now that is frustrating!! where were they when I only had Fibromyalgia, Osteoporosis, Hemochromatosis, and alphabet soup syndrome?

    1. Hi Bob

      Thanks for your great comment. You know, you really made me think. I have been trying to find topics for people to share my message of hope and getting frustrated at the lack of shares on facebook whilst seeing other pages grow fast. It strikes me that anything positive gets no traction and negatives gets hundreds of shares.

      But reading your comment has really helped me to remember both the fact taht there are people likek you ready to look for positive message and to focus on them.

      You have also helped to reconnect with my old frustrations that frankly I have buried somewhat over the last few years. Imagine being “fortunate in having a heart problem needing surgery, followed up with a cervical fusion so now my family and leftover friends can justify my health issues” – that’s just a crazy state of things isn’t it? And yet it so highlights our constant plight of trying to convince others that we actually are sick, like being sick isn’t bad enough, we don’t get believed.

      Thanks for your great comment Bob – I must tap into my long buried frustrations on the matter and do a blog sometime. It’s funny how we bury the most painful things in our past!

      Dan

  15. Hello Dan:

    Great insights! While I do not have Fibro or ME/CFS, as you know, I am a caregiver for my husband, who has CRPS. I am not easily frustrated, thank Goodness, as I also look at “bad” events as opportunities to learn, to make changes, etc. My husband, however, does find it frustrating to see how CRPS has taken away so much from our lives and imposed so many other burdens. His physical limitations prevent us from even going to a movie together as family, let alone travel the way we planned to do. We have, however, created a new “normal,” a meaningful coexistence in which we talk, laugh, exchange ideas, discuss world events and open up to share what is really going on in our lives. We truly enjoy each other’s company. Not all families have this! I do believe that your message about frustration applies quite well for family caregivers and I hope they heed your advice to use that frustration to make changes for the better. Thank you!

  16. Hi Dan, i thought this was an interesting video. I find the frustration one of the hardest things to deal with, especially when I have had a few good days and believe i am at last on the mend, then wake up the next ay and can hardly walk because I am so sore. Sometimes I feel the path I am walking through life just gets thinner and thinner and I am getting squashed in the middle. On the other hand there is still an awful lot one can do along the thinning path and I sometimes find that I don’t feel as bad as I had expected to. If we can turn our frustrations into positive thoughts and actions it would be a good push forward.
    I have been trying to embrace the diet tips you suggest in your book backed up with supplements and although I have not managed to 100% I do manage it in fits and starts and I have noticed an improvement in my condition. I believe I will get better the timescale doesn’t matter.

    1. Thanks for the feedback Fiona.
      Well done for taking action, every little step in the right direction gets you a step closer to your goal.
      Remember to seek out your personal trigger and address these also – diet alone will only take you so far.
      Best wishes,
      Dan

  17. What a great vid u did. I have diffuclties to read your blog because of my concentration level. I ve stopped being frustrated. I started loving my live. Im so sick, than I cant get ouf of bed and need help for all the little things. but I discovered one year ago. I DONT HAVE TO SUFFER. That was a big step! This step saved my relationship with my girlfriend and thats why my girlfriend and our thaugther are still living together as a familiy.

    1. Hi Sebastian, great insight. People sometimes can’t take that on board by simpling having someone say it, you have to experience that realisation. Suffering is distinctly different to experiencing negative things. I wish you all the best.

      Dan

  18. I found this video instructive. After 30 years of living with #fibro, I’m honestly at my wit’s end, and find myself *beyond* frustrated. The life that I am living is just bare subsistence — not LIFE; not thriving. *Something* has to change. I do not have the answer at this moment… but despite my “frustration,” there is still a spark of hope, and these videos are speaking to me, even as my head is saying “oh, come on — there’s no hope.” You must understand that after three decades, I’ve been beaten down pretty good, and “hope” seems like a pipe dream — like more energy than I can muster. / But I can read…and let ideas take root, and perhaps that will lead to some new action. Something I can’t imagine right now. / Best to you, and bless you for sharing your lived experience, and that of others. — Amy Y.

    1. Thanks for your comment Amy – I hope you find that CFS Unravelled continues to uplift you and guide you towards recovery. You might like to listen to stories of long-term Fibromyalgia sufferers that recovered, like Abigails story here.

  19. Dear Daniel…. Thank you for all you are doing and all you are sharing with the world. Besides being extremely intelligent you have a wonderful heart. My daughter and husband are leaving on a yearly family reunion trip which I have had to miss the last 2 years. Having cfs is teaching me so many good lessons….but it still really sucks. Yes, I absolutely get frustrated. I also get really scared sometimes, too. Afraid that I won’t heal. Afraid that I won’t be able to cope. But then I look at your website and see the recovery stories and realize, ” If they can do it so can I”. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you 🙂

    1. Hi Cheri…Thanks for your lovely comment. Yes, great lessons, but I think most of us feel we would prefer an easier way to learn them! Most people I have spoken to share your feelings when they were ill. I am glad you are inspired and uplifted and look forward to hearing about your progress. Remember, little steps add up over time! 🙂 xx

  20. Dan, I got your reply via email but can’t find my original comment here. I have been working with the optimal health clinic – you interviewed Alex once – for over a year. That is the last in a long list of help I have sought from dr my hill, to Gupta amygdala retraining and metabolic typing etc etc.I genuinely have been using everything out there and I do understand what is not working in my body. I am not making enough ATP, it is clumping, I have reverse t3, my cortisol is bound and not bio available and I experience orthostatic intolerance meaning my blood pools in my legs, it is highly likely from disbiosis test that I have methylation problems. I have spent 1,000 and 1,000 s of pounds on all of this. I have addressed these things as best I can but they are symptoms, not the cause. The actual cause is elusive. There genuinely are people with the right mindset and the right help who are still not recovering. It’s simply a fact.

    1. Hi Sula,

      Well, like I have expalined in my videos, my view is that the primary cause of ME/CFS/Fibromyalgia is ANS dysfunction. You might wonder about what the triggers are, but you have already listed them (the symptoms). That’s the whole point, it’s a vicious cycle.

      And of course I understand where you are coming from when you say that there are people with ‘the right mindset & the right help who are still not recovering’. It sounds like you think I am saying that if people are still sick with ME/CFS/Fibromyalgia, that it’s just that they are not trying hard enough – I hope not, because that’s not the case for a great deal of people!

      However, I do think that people often don’t realise the stressful experience of their illness, both from a physiological and psychological point of view. We need to be mindful of what we focus on to move towards a healing environment, even little things, matter, like how we identify with our experience. I imagine that the OHC helped you with that, but looking at your email address, I wonder if that message got through?

      When we are so physically ill, life is very difficult – it’s important that we do whatever we can to be gentle with ourselves!

  21. I think for me frustration is a cue to drop the story and often the patterns of behavior I’m living in, perhaps unconsciously. When the emotional pain becomes unbearable enough you say okay – I’m willing to do what I need to to change this and that includes examining how I’m contributing to creating this situation

    1. It’s strange how we all only start to take action when the pain levels are high enough – don’t you think? I have always found that people need both a push (get away from) and a pull (go towards) force to start creating change momentum!

  22. I have CFS and after almost two years of a debilitating “flare” of symptoms, I chose to accept my condition and not constantly mentally fight against it. I also didn’t let it define me anymore. So my body/brain wasn’t working like it should; so? That wasn’t who I was. After countless hours of research and worry, I came across your book and followed your suggestions and it’s been even more life changing! Having the knowledge about the root cause of CFS-one that makes sense to me- helps me to accept it even more. Acceptance arose out of frustration, but it is not resignation. Acceptance is freedom-freedom to love yourself through the worst of times and the best of times, and to know-no matter what-you’re going to be okay.

    1. Thanks for sharing Jennifer

      I am glad the book supported you and you finding a new level of self-care.

      Hope the free intro videos for ANS REWIRE have also been helpful for you. 🙂

  23. Thank you Dan for this very helpful video. If there is just one that encapsulates everything the long-term M.E/CFS/Fibro sufferer feels it is this one. Occasionally I read comments from others who have recovered and now run their own programmes but they don’t seem to be able to articulate how it feels in the same way. You are a mind reader! I can identify with those who swat up on remedies, seek help from various practitioners and come away with usually conflicting advice. Result-I shall indeed trust my own instinct more,and try not to be in a hurry. I shall comment too on your ANS Rewire because for anyone feeling very alone with these conditions this will help them to know that there is someone somewhere who has been there and knows exactly what it is like.

  24. Hi Dan.
    Don’t know where to ask, so I just write it here…
    I need help, since 3 month my symptoms get worse – main reason was that I slept not enough for too long.
    And since 3 month, I got an EXTREME hunger. And it doesn’t go away, I eat up to 10.000 calories a day, and I wake up every night and need to eat to be able to sleep again.
    Before this, I ate low carb and it helped me a lot only vegetables, some fat from avocado, cottage cheese, nuts but it’s not possible with the extreme hunger to eat like this.
    It sounds crazy, but if I not eat so many calories, I get the restless leg syndrome, I get heart problems, headache and many other symptoms
    I gained 50 pounds in the last 3 month and it seems like there is no end.
    My doctor can’t help, I’m his first patient with cfs, but anyway I’m happy that I found someone who wants to treat me after nearly 4 years.
    Sorry for this long message, but it’s very important, because I’m not even able to work, before I had a part time job and now Im short before loosing my job and it was so hard to find a job, which Im able to do with cfs.

    Thanks for reading – I hope you have any ideas what to do

    Ps: I eaT no sugar, not even fruits

    1. It’s good that you are seeing your doctor – always essential to report all symptoms and have them investigated appropriately.

      Unfortunately, treating symptoms is a frustrating endeavor with ME/CFS. Success tends to happen when you change your approach to go beyond symptom treatments.

      That means that you build a multi-lateral recovery plan with the view of resolving the central mechanism of the illness.

      Have you read CFS Unravelled or watched the summary explanation videos?

    2. I read the book, I have no good inet connection so can’t watch the videos.

      I try many things, I meditate, make yoga, breathing technics, I changed my location, don’t watch TV, only hear “boring” music – that calms me down, have a sleeping routine, try be as positive as possible, take supplements, I had a good diet before, take walk’s, that helped me all a lot.
      There was a time where I thought I’m short before reaching my old health. . But then I have overdone it and all changed to the worse.
      At that time I didn’t knew that I have cfs.
      I got that severe hunger, 1 year ago, since then it seems like my health not get any better no matter what I do.
      And then since 3 month the hunger gets really really bad, and I do all that I have done before, bit this hunger doesn’t go away.
      The problem is, that I can’t sleep, no matter what I eat or how much I eat. My stomach always feels empty and I feel always under “adrenalin” or something like that
      Any idea what I can add to my “to-do list” ? 🙂

      1. Hi Peter

        In the book I speak about how these neurological links occur that perpetuate the ANs dysfunction (ie. these adrenaline experiences).

        So you are doing some good foundation things, like the meditation, and I would encourage you to deepen those.

        However, it is also about reducing your physical AND mental stress, which there is plenty off when we are sick. This is a key strategy.

        So NOT ‘overdoing it’ is key also.

        In ANS REWIRE I help people create an action plan that also includes other brain-training strategies to release excess sympathetic arousal and to stop giving ‘concern’ signals to the brain that create this feedback loop of symptoms from ANS dysfunction leading to more ANS triggering. Perhaps consider watching the 4 intro lessons.

        1. Hi again.
          Thanks for your answer.
          Would love to buy your program but sadly I’ve got no pc and fast Internet. :/
          Is there any other chance to get those “brain-training” strategies?
          And I got another question, never read it about that… Sexuality.
          IT probably sounds strange, don’t know If you know these problems… but my problem is, after the Orgasm, I feel tired, mostly get light headache and get a bad physicAl feeling… without Sexuality I get a little bit more energy, but I get “nervous” or “hot” and are often concentrated on Sexuality, espacially in the Sommer, where you see so much skin.. sorry, englisch is not my main language, but you probably know what I mean.
          Any idea how to handle that?

          AnD you talk about to “let go” about the symptoms, not constantly thinking about the illness etc
          My question is – isn’t it bad for you to always talk with sick people, writing a book and so on – now that you are healthy again?

          I got so many questions… but i know your time is precious and I’m not the only one with questions.

          THanks Dan, for taking the time and answering in the comment section and espacially for giving me and thousands of other people hope.
          Feel hugged Dan! 🙂

          1. Hi Peter
            Sorry, ANS REWIRE is only available online.
            The experience you describe is very common. Like with most of the symptoms, I am not sure there is a simple ‘fix’.
            I encourage people to focus on recovery and not be surrounded by constant illness talk – so people in my program are encouraged to get off lists, leave facebook groups and so on so that they don’t have constant reminders about the illness. ?

  25. I guess having had ME for 23 years I can’t remember what’s it like to be normal! But what frustrates me long-term is that my creative side hasn’t gone – yet ME puts obstacles in the way- mainly the fatigue so I can’t do much creative stuff. But the most recent frustrating thing is – my condition has worsened in recent years, (now also got neuro issues, Fibro and now Menieres too) – I keep saying the wrong words for things or my sentence comes out with words in wrong order!!! I mean – I wanted my mother to pass me the grated cheese- and it came out as “can you pass the dry ice please!!” Where the heck did that come from!!! I can picture the item in my head but the name just evades me for few seconds or wrong word comes out! Eg I wanted to refer to a knife on the kitchen table – but I said “not the fork- you know -that thing by the side of it!” It’s crazy!

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